Comments on: Messianic Judaism: just say no!

By: clayboy

clayboy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:35:26 +0000

Thanks for giving me something to think about

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:19:27 +0000

*Very* cynical about Christian Zionists who favour religious nationalists to Israeli believers as their Jewish allies. No problem with Christian Zionists who want to pray for Israeli believers though.

Me personally? I’m comfortable in Protestant high church and low church services, and synagogue occasionally. I meet with other Messianic Jews to worship frequently.

By: clayboy

clayboy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:06:51 +0000

Thanks. As I say, the grouping you seem to be representing is a variant I haven’t come across before. I think I’d like to ask you how you see your relationship with long-term Christian communities in Israel (i.e not pilgrims and the tourist apparatus)

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:01:46 +0000

“I remain convinced that the origins of a “messianic Judaism” that seeks a distinct identity from the Church originates in a particular American Protestantism – and their hopes to speed up the end of the world.”

Well, I’ll admit there’s quite a few like that, but there are other Messianic Jews like us at RPP who want little more than to be left alone by Yad L’Achim and their cronies.

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:59:44 +0000

“The particular group whose site I was quoting from, however, seem to me to be mainly American Gentiles who think that Hebraisms and Torah observance tacked on to a very evangelical confession of faith somehow make it more authentically Christian and Jewish.”

Oh yeh I can see that’s dodge.

By: clayboy

clayboy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:54:38 +0000

Yeze, (Sorry comments stop at four levels of nesting) I think the question of whether Jesus spoke some Greek is a very open one – not, obviously as a first language, or necessarily very well. If John’s Gospel preserves historical memory, then Philip may well be such a Greek speaking friend.

I thank you for your responses. I remain convinced that the origins of a “messianic Judaism” that seeks a distinct identity from the Church originates in a particular American Protestantism – and their hopes to speed up the end of the world.

Whether some branches of it are evolving into something different is something I’m certainly prepared to consider (I found your site interesting).

The particular group whose site I was quoting from, however, seem to me to be mainly American Gentiles who think that Hebraisms and Torah observance tacked on to a very evangelical confession of faith somehow make it more authentically Christian and Jewish.

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:41:27 +0000

“Worry not, I was in no way intending to taint you by association with such a group.”

What about not judging people according to New Moons and Sabbaths? Colossians 2:16

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:39:09 +0000

OK, well I guess “how would you feel?” is irrelevant.

But who are Jesus’ Greek-speaking friends?

He spoke Aramaic…

I’m with you on the unnecessary hyphon though.

By: Yeze

Yeze — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:36:51 +0000

Yes, that’s my point!!

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